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Can take from this debacle? >> obviously, it's so heart-breaking for anyone to look at those pictures of what's going on there right now. initially what we need to do is look back. we have 20 years now of data to look at by looking at what went right, what went wrong, and then apply those lessons going forward as wisdom and we neglected to do that when we went into afghanistan. that's what we deserve to do for those people who didn't make it home. and those people who made it home facing the lifelong trauma of the battlefield. so we have that. we have the 1979 to 1989 soviet experience to stud...

Years we become complacent, people in charge right now are simply not very impressive but they are impressive in the sense that they have internalized whatever they had to to be promoted. when you saw the cnl he talked about a reading list, he hadn't even looked at it, these reading lists are put together by lieutenant colonels and majors, commanders lieutenant commanders, his generals don't read anything. jillian: don't blame any of them who poured over the pages of candy. i read mao and marx, fine. it is embarrassing. lifting off our reading list in college, this is telling, the media of cou...

Have become complacent. the people in charge right now are simply not very impressive, but they are impressive in the sense that they have internalized whatever they have had to to be promoted. you saw the sea and over. he talked about a reading list. he hadn't even looked at it. these reading lists are put together by lieutenant colonel's and majors, commanders and lieutenant commanders. generals don't read anything, it's a lot of nonsense. >> laura: i don't believe any of them sat around pouring over the pages of ibram kendi. i don't believe that for one second. i read mao and karl marx, are...

Very long time. people were terrified to speak out about what was being taught. it really came home to be noticed during covid. i think parents started leaning over the shoulders of their kids and said what? what are you working on in school? started looking into the books that are reading lists and they get it and they are not alone. these parents are not alone anymore. >> dana: when a mom and dad engage and get mad, they can be powerful. loudon county the public opinion poll says voter impressions of crt unfavorable 50%, favorable 42%. i wonder if they took that in a couple weeks we will see...

Reading lists like this while out in huge are indicative. that's why it's great that senator cotton is doing something about it. >> martha: as you say, they should be reading about china, russia, military strategy and history. serving the mission is the 100% goal of any reading list that they would have. pete hegseth, thanks very much. >> thank you, martha. >> martha: coming up, karl rove on the latest road blocks for the biden agenda and why the president is not fighting harder at this point to save it. interesting question. karl is on that next. >> we have not heard him talk about it. >> why...