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♪ >> anthony: there were a lot of freakish, never could've happened at any other times, it seems to me, bands who had a readymade audience. okay, and you did the same. you can basically say, "i am a rock star." >> lydia: well hey, hey, hey. no, no, no. first of all i never said i was a [ bleep ] star. >> anthony: no, but i mean but not by word, but by deed and deportment. >> lydia: we are great, aren't we? >> first of all, i'm not a star. i'm not an icon. that may be in your midnight fantasies. >> anthony: but you walked into a club, people knew who you were. >> lydia: i didn't walk into any...

>> anthony: did you expect to make a living from art? >> lydia: no, of course not. >> anthony: i mean, at no point? >> lydia: no, i just was happy i didn't have to suck [ bleep ] in an iranian shoe store. first of all i thought i would come to new york to do spoken word, but spoken word didn't really exist. so i started teenage jesus and the jerks. i had to really make the most hideous, yet precise din i possibly could as a tantrum against all of the music and all of society. ♪ >> anthony: there were a lot of freakish, never could've happened at any other times, it seems to me, bands who had...