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Foia or any other request. that's how the benghazi committee got the e-mails even before we went through our exhaustive process. now i have -- as you're rightly pointing out -- been involved from the receiving side in a lot of these accusations. in fact, as you might remember during the '90s, there were a bunch of them and, you know, all of them turned out to be not true. that was the outcome. when i ran for the senate the voters of new york overlooked all of that, and they looked at my record, and they looked at what i would do for them and i was elected senator after going through years of t...

>> on the receiving side, though, jessica, what do you think about a child who is five not receiving a valentine because maybe they weren't someone's favorite? what's the effect there? >> it would be insanely cruel to me. the other thing is that my mom is a school teacher and she started teaching in the '60s and she looked at this note and was like, this is how we did things in 1965. there is something about -- kindergarten is a little bit like herding cats. so to ask a bunch of five-year-olds who don't necessarily all read, 'cause they are kind of on a spectrum there, to be able to spell all ...

Do you want everybody to have skin in the game? these are arguments worthy of a presidential campaign. what paul ryan is talking about, i think it will be blended together in the context of romney's comments, but i don't think it's necessarily fair to do it. >> i think you're right about the political blending of it and about the necessity of that discussion and that could be a sober and serious discussion. the part that makes it political is when you get this moral for anybody on the receiving side of a net transfer from the government. that's you're not taking responsibility for your life. y...

To have when you look at the level of dependency in the country. do we want to live in a country where people are receiving a net transfer with tax dollars? do we want to live in a country where a minority of people are the tax providers? do you want everybody to be a stake holder? do you want everybody to have skin in the game? these are arguments worthy of a presidential campaign. what paul ryan is talking about, i think it will be blended together in the context of romney's comments, but i don't think it's necessarily fair to do it. >> i think you're right about the political blending of it...

Where a minority of people are the tax providers? do you want everybody to be a stake holder? do you want everybody to have skin in the game? these are arguments worthy of a presidential campaign. what paul ryan is talking about, i think it will be blended together in the context of romney's comments, but i don't think it's necessarily fair to do it. >> i think you're right about the political blending of it and about the necessity of that discussion and that could be a sober and serious discussion. the part that makes it political is when you get this moral for anybody on the receiving side o...