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Statements as stepping stones. now they have debt naded a thermonuclear bomb, a hydrogen bomb which is ten times more powerful than anything they had done before and they actually publicly displayed weaponized models of these devices. they're now on the international stage as a nuclear power and they know anything shy of negotiation or china pressuring them, they can ignore donald trump at this point. the ball's in their court. i think they're going to keep the ball. >> gordon, what do you also make of donald trump, the third part of his tweet to essentially go after south korea, call them app...

Here's the big question. as the general was talking about intent, do we have any interpretation of what specifically a reckless provocation -- what would constitute a reckless provocation in north korea's eyes? >> well, what i think you're seeing here is them posturing with the kind of rhetoric that perhaps is a bit more over the top than we've seen before but, look, they've got one chip to play. the threat of a nuclear explosion. the threat of a missile that can reach the continental united states. so i think today, seeing them show their might during a parade but not stage a nuclear test is ...

Show your revolutionary fervor and send a grand message to not only to the people in our own country and kim jong un. but this is tailor made for the rest of the world to see as well. >> will, there's been escalating war of words between washington and pyongyang, top north korean official said that this is a military parade marking the day of sun where you are. if the u.s. does have any reckless provocation, we will immediately apply a destructive strike with our revolutionary power. we're prepared to respond to an all n out war with an all-out war and we're ready to hit back with nuclear atta...

>> today the mass the cardinals were all in white. that's pope benedict xvi, but he talked about the unity of the church and those who rise in the church rise to chur of and there is archbishop dolan, well, cardinal dolan. 214 cardinals and nl 125 are under 80 eligible to vote in the next conclave which chooses the next pope. the next pope will be among the cardinals, guys. >> juliet: thank you very much, lauren, great to see you. now to other stories making news. while you were sleeping, north korea threatening to attack south korea or alleged military drills near the border and the north got...

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