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Night -- can you afford four more years of obama? the writing is on the wall. the stakes are higher and the american lives are clearly at stake. today, another economic hit amidst the chaos, the credit agency, obs announced it is downgrading u.s. debet to double-a, from the previously downgraded double-a. army veteran, peter hexais with us. >> i have a question. this is a serious question -- how much more failure and chaos do people need before romney's winning in the polls by 50 points? i want to know. let's go through this. we have $6 trillion at the end of four years of obam a. 2 downgrades...

Night -- can you afford four more years of obama? the writing is on the wall. the stakes are higher and the american lives are clearly at stake. today, another economic hit amidst the chaos, the credit agency, obs announced it is downgrading u.s. debet to double-a, from the previously downgraded double-a. army veteran, peter hexais with us. >> i have a question. this is a serious question -- how much more failure and chaos do people need before romney's winning in the polls by 50 points? i want to know. let's go through this. we have $6 trillion at the end of four years of obam a. 2 downgrades...

It's a team effort here at msnbc. governor, let me start with the vetting process that you went through. what did you submit? >> well, a couple of things. i've not commented on the vp process. i'm not going to start now. didn't do it in 2008. i will say a couple of things. one, i think governor romney made a great choice. a week before he made the choice, i had an interview with nbc, recommended paul ryan. i think this choice just solidifies the fact this election's about a fundamental choice to the american people. under president obama, we have seen record deficits, record unemployment, more...

Are talking about here, that's incons quential to the ideology of it all. >> sean: i am trying to wrap my arms around this. in spite of all the evidence that we have garnered, for example, japan's lost decade. they tried one stimulus after another. europe's economic demise, unfielding before our eyes. record deficits. no jobs created under obama, record debt. this is not rocket science i. the problem is, this wouldn't make a debt in france's debt problem. the french president isn't even giving an estimate of how much this would bring in to tax those top earners -- >> they don't care. it is not...

Are talking about here, that's incons quential to the ideology of it all. >> sean: i am trying to wrap my arms around this. in spite of all the evidence that we have garnered, for example, japan's lost decade. they tried one stimulus after another. europe's economic demise, unfielding before our eyes. record deficits. no jobs created under obama, record debt. this is not rocket science i. the problem is, this wouldn't make a debt in france's debt problem. the french president isn't even giving an estimate of how much this would bring in to tax those top earners -- >> they don't care. it is not...