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Department authorization led us to over the past decade. >> sure. you are former ambassador, in your travels around the world, you got a sense of what america is viewed like by others. how do you think the rest of the world is viewing this country right now? >> oh, i think it's a huge disappointment for the man on the street around the world for whom the united states has been an aspiration and inspiration for as long as i have been serving this country which is over 30 years. and the one enduring quality of the united states to most people that i've ever come into contact with is our freedom ...

>> i told you what meets the definition of torture. 19 guys with box cutters did to 3,000 americans on 9/11. there's no comparison between that and what we did. >> in atlantic, . >> in cheney's world methods that were part of program like putting detainees in coffin size boxes were not considered torture because they were blessed by the program and rectal feeding, well, that's not torture either. >> this was over and above you admit. >> it wasn't done as part of the interrogation program. it wasn't torture in terms it wasn't part of the program.