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Democrats. >> pete, that line you read from the excerpts that you just got your hands on that the justice department released about transsi, being as transparent as possible. is that an indication that maybe barr would be open to releasing part of the report publicly? >> there's been discussion within the justy department about how to handle this. before barr was nominated and i think their expectation is that this is going to become public. now, make no mistake about it. you know this as well as anyone. there's going to be a fight about how much of it gets made public. i assume mueller's repo...

Anybody, talked to anybody, he was wrong, many times over, but never as much as today. well, that meeting that they had, all of the different meetings, all of the indictments on people lying about what they did. certainly, there was a lot of context, but nothing like we've seen today with manafort. >> this was the first piece of evidence that i've seen that strikes -- >> let me just tell people what it was. these legal papers come out today, they screw up with the redaction, maybe. i'm always about the conspiracy on this side. i'm always like the president on this side. i don't know how they s...

Trump campaign. there's nothing, the president said. none of my people ever met with anybody, talked with anybody, he was wrong, many times over, but never as much as today. well, that meeting that they had, all of the different meetings, all of the indictments on people lying about what they did. certainly, there was a lot of context, but nothing like we've seen today with manafort. >> this was the first piece of evidence that i've seen that strikes -- >> let me tell people what it was. these legal papers come out today, they screw up with the redaction, maybe. i'm always like the president o...

Because i want to move on. i got ellie hoenig. i want analysis on the proper redacting. i'm not a lawyer. i don't know how you don't redact key things like sharing polling data when you're hanging out in madrid. what's your read on that? >> it's an attorney's nightmare. attorneys are not good technologically. there's software where you can redact out certain pieces of the documents and apparently manafort's lawyers failed to do that. >> how significant is that? >> we talk about collusion which is not a legal term but just collusion in the normal everyday sense. you have the chairman of the cam...

That was the purpose. comey basically says that. they send in agents like struyk and they gave him the hymn an opportunity to lie. he shouldn't have done it but that's not the way the fbi should operate and they should never discourage anyone from bringing a lawyer. i have never had a client sit down with the fbi. i've never had a client testify. they're not here to help you. they pretend they're friendly. but they're there to trap you. it's his own fault he felt into the trap. but do we want our government officials to behave this way? >> laura: no. they're on the hunt. they're on the hunt. a...