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A clue lies in the kreebl foundation, the idea he was promotion. >> the kreebl foundation is a good red card program that says you get to be legal but you don't get a path to citizenship, there's a way to end up with a country where there's no more ill legality but you haven't automatically given amnesty to anyone. >> so this red card solution would reform immigration all right. video for the program like matt kib bee of freedom works tells us so. the red card is literally that. a red card with a microchip embedded in it. but what happens if that worker loses his job or misplaces her card and ...

A sense of what you would do with the people who are here in the united states right now illegally. >> well, i mean, the first thing you have to do is control the border to stop the flow. i think you have to go to a guest worker program that is outsourced through american express, visa, or mastercard so there isn't massive corruption and fraud, very substantial penalties for employers who hire people illegally. you need a world war ii selective service board. some people who come here recently that are day laborers with no connections, they ought to go home immediately. somebody who came here ...