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Might try to find some middle ground if they do in fact end up embracing this theory, jake? >> jessica schneider, thank you. joining us to discuss is josh stein the attorney general. you're in charge of elections in north carolina. can you give us some examples how if the court ultimately rules in favor of letting republican legislatures, let's say hypothetically but state legislatures take over, elections in north carolina could change? like what's the real risk here? what's the worst-case scenario? >> far and away the biggest issue for north carolina is how we redistrict every decade. the wa...

Know, the governor took down five, six, the governor's under performance because she didn't talk about crime, took down five or six house member seats that are democrats, if you talk to those democrats. don't scream at me. talk to the democrats who lost they'll tell you that's the case. and yet, what are they talking about, hunter biden's laptop. sub level, you know, administration officials. it's just -- i mean, if you're a republican, if you're conservative, it's really depressing. >> democrats in new york state will also point to the previous governor, a deal that he made with senate republ...

The republicans thanks to redistricting and held by the strong campaigns of governor for understand this in fact i say the campaign even though he didn't win is the biggest highlight. cut that lead from 20 points as a remarkable achievement. don't forget california may be republican see to put the gop over the top of house control. and an important lesson there over a decade ago. movement to replace the system the partisan gerrymandering of the independent redistricting process. of course it's a complete scandal we don't know who controls the house we'll have more later in the show. but now we...

The republicans thanks to redistricting and held by the strong campaigns of governor for understand this in fact i say the campaign even though he didn't win is the biggest highlight. cut that lead from 20 points as a remarkable achievement. don't forget california may be republican see to put the gop over the top of house control. and an important lesson there over a decade ago. movement to replace the system the partisan gerrymandering of the independent redistricting process. of course it's a complete scandal we don't know who controls the house we'll have more later in the show. but now we...

The republicans thanks to redistricting and held by the strong campaigns of governor for understand this in fact i say the campaign even though he didn't win is the biggest highlight. cut that lead from 20 points as a remarkable achievement. don't forget california may be republican see to put the gop over the top of house control. and an important lesson there over a decade ago. movement to replace the system the partisan gerrymandering of the independent redistricting process. of course it's a complete scandal we don't know who controls the house we'll have more later in the show. but now we...