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I think a large part of it is that in the past several years. the population within the state of california and elsewhere have kind of taken control away from the legislature through the referendum process and called for stricter sentencing guidelines because of frustrations historically about people getting out early. not being held to answer to the extent required by statute. so i think we have enjoyed a little bit of a change in behavior because so many people who had the propensity to violate the law have been locked up. now that's being reversed in a time when law enforcement resources on...

>> your ideal outcome that gaddafi goes and form a new government in tripoli, obviously, with our help, but from their own purposes? >> yes, but what i'd like to see and what an opportunity we're missing is to get that opposition movement committed to some kind of democratic referendum process, not just a new regime installed with guns and the more we keep a hands off attitude, the less we deal with them, the less the chance of locking in, i think, some agreement on the principles that could define a post gaddafi future. >> okay, we'll see how this develops, thank you, secretary wolfowitz. whe...