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Usually this time of year, this is shoulder season. lower gasoline prices. it's been cancelled because of the storms. >> what is the rule of thumb? it's more of an impact on everyone even though they're not in the hurricane sites, when the hurricane is in the gulf or by refineries. that i can understand. it seems as of late even hurricanes far from the gulf, just off the coast or way down by puerto rico, the virgin islands, the caribbean, they still have an impact. what is going on? >> they really do. what is happening, the u.s. refining industry is the refiner to the world. that's where it st...

Once you get the system uprooted, it takes a hit. right now, we got a report, gasoline amounts are at the lowest level in two years. refiners have a lot of work to get back. i have to say, the u.s. refining industry during the storms in my opinion are heroic. these guys, the way they have fought, lost their houses, going down there to bring refining back on, bring gasoline prices. they're the unsung heros. they're doing everything they can to keep the economy going. they can't continue to do this if they get hit with storm after storm after storm. it's just a heroic effort. that means higher p...

Maria. but there is a fall-out. gas prices are staying stubbornly high. not as high as they were, but still up appreciably since the storms first hit. who is going on here. phil flynn. what do you think? >> i think this is like another sucker punch to our wallets, this storm maria. just as the u.s. refining industry was getting off the mat after hurricane irma, hurricane harvey, we get slammed again. in puerto rico, there's a lot of small little refineries. a lot of gasoline storage tanks. even in the virgin islands, that really took a heavy hit, they store a lot of gasoline. what is interesti...

Workers at their best. >> jason, has been from the top down. >> the vice president of the president, members of the cabinet. everyone seems to be have stepped up here. i think that is very encouraging. i also, you know there's been a lot of devastation and i think the recovery will happen. it will not happen at the same pace everywhere. i mean look at the city like houston, it is bigger, it is richer, it is not only an energy hub but you have an education sector. medical healthcare there that may come back a lot faster than a place that depends on tourism for a lot of this gdp. so i think the ...

Workers at their best. >> jason, has been from the top down. >> the vice president of the president, members of the cabinet. everyone seems to be have stepped up here. i think that is very encouraging. i also, you know there's been a lot of devastation and i think the recovery will happen. it will not happen at the same pace everywhere. i mean look at the city like houston, it is bigger, it is richer, it is not only an energy hub but you have an education sector. medical healthcare there that may come back a lot faster than a place that depends on tourism for a lot of this gdp. so i think the ...