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The end what sentence he gets. >> what will have an impact on that? what paul manafort says -- he's in court in a wheelchair, he's in a suit. last time we saw him he was in the prison jump suit. he's going to have an opportunity to speak. do you think that's going to have a bearing on what judge jackson does? >> i think most judges want to hear from the defendant himself or herself, that they are truly sorry for what they did. manafort did not say that in virginia. he still got a lenient sentence. i think it matters a lot that he apologize and apologize genuinely. judges, again, are used to he...

For the united states? what is our long-term strategy? all of that requires thought, it requires consideration. it does not require a reflex action. >> the president's response, mr. secretary, to all of the criticism he has received over the last year and a half and the investigations about russia have been to attack the sources, whether it is us in the press, whether it is the fbi or whether now it is bob mueller. we saw some of the conspiracy theories floated around certain segments of the media and promote it by president trump calling bob mueller the head of a crime family. what is your re...

Really don't have an overall strategy. and if we're going to strike syria, i don't think it ought to be a reflex action without a strategy. that's what this administration has to do, is figure out what is our long-term strategy in syria going to be. >> so a follow up on that, why don't we have a strategy? >> we don't have a strategy because i think we were reacting to what was happening in syria, and there was a fear that we didn't want to get entrapped by another middle eastern war. i understand that. but at the same time the fact is once you say assad has to step down, once you see that ther...

So rather than developing that strategy, rather than trying to play a hole, role enforcing syr figure out some kind of political settle mement and allowing syrians to figure out their future, we have been hitting isis on the side talking about assad but don't have an overall strategy. and if we're going to strike syria, i don't think this ought to be a reflex action without a strategy. that's what this administration has to do is figure out what is our long-term strategy in syria going to be. >> so a follow up on that, why don't we have a strategy? >> we don't have a strategy because i think w...

Whatever action that he takes are going to be. >> was that a yes? >> yes -- i mean, it's yes in a sthaebs this sense that this is a dangerous moment with this president who hasn't taken the time to think out what are the consequences of military action here? what is it going to mean for the united states? what is our long-term strategy? all of that requires thought, it requires consideration, it does not require a reflex action. >> the president's response, mr. secretary, to all of the criticism he's received over the last year and a half and the investigations about russia have been to attack...