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Countervailing measures agreement — that was made in 1995, at the time that china became... before china became a member. now things have changed substantially. so, china... so, is it time for you, the wto, to get tougher on china? what it is time to do is for the wto members to say to themselves if they are not happy with some of the earlier agreements that were made, and the world is changing and evolving — those agreements should be re—looked at, they should be, you know, re—examined. it's not that, when you make an agreement, it's set in stone forever, because the world is changing...

And that china continues to build coal plants. in fact, they see the ccp as ath very valuable partner since china's reform process over forty years ago, the country has made great contributions to the development of soroban economy. >> we have to understand chinahi is the number one driver of t clean energy today. >> all it is , is an absolute right. >> we've got to cooperate with them. obviously, now, obviously, welyv obviously have to cooperate with them now. w they completely ignore the factm that since china was admitted to the world tradeit trad organization, they've become, if anything, ...

China became... before china became a member. now things have changed substantially. so, china... so, is it time for you, the wto, to get tougher on china? what it is time to do is for the wto members to say to themselves if they are not happy with some of the earlier agreements that were made, and the world is changing and evolving — those agreements should be re—looked at, they should be, you know, re—examined. it's not that, when you make an agreement, it's set in stone forever, because the world is changing rapidly. so, what we should be doing is saying, "how do we need "to look at t...

In reform of the wto. that's what the reform process is, to reform those things that are not working as well, because they were negotiated at a time when the world was so different. all right. right. and maybe one of the new shifting priorities of the wto has to be climate change and decarbonisation, and the role that international trade maybe can play in a decarbonisation agenda. you have said, quote, "greening trade is urgent." well, it's a nice phrase, but how do you "green" trade? well, i never use nice phrases unless i mean them, stephen. and what i mean to say is that people typically th...

That's what the reform process is, to reform those things that are not working as well, because they were negotiated at a time when the world was so different. all right. right. and maybe one of the new shifting priorities of the wto has to be climate change and decarbonisation, and the role that international trade maybe can play in a decarbonisation agenda. you have said, quote, "greening trade is urgent." well, it's a nice phrase, but how do you "green" trade? well, i never use nice phrases unless i mean them, stephen. and what i mean to say is that people typically think of trade as part o...