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And the football trying to get china to take care of these people forever. china does not have either the will or the ability and the mixed signals are mixed signals to china. how serious do we look to them or that we will be increasing our military presence and increasing pressure on north korea which is a problem for them? the last thing they want is the regime to fracture and to have a refugee problem coming into china the i was struck by the usually guest about how little this administration has to say, how little planning they have done, they are suddenly back funding missile defense whic...

Use of those weapons improbable moving forward. my argument is listen, if we know they have it and that is undisputed by the international community, including syria, we believe they have this intention to use, we think they've used a small quantity within the last two years, shouldn't we use what capabilities we have to make sure that they don't compound the 70,000 deaths with a chemical weapon exchange here that would be a humanitarian disaster? the refugee problem is already destabilizing our allies in the middle east. this thing is growing more complicated and more dangerous to our nationa...

50 or 60 plain loads of equipment gotton to the insurgents and perhaps secretary kerry is thinking of ways to ramp that up further. on the other hand, every one of the countries you have indicated also has had ropes to -- recents to want to hold pack and they're reasons that are serious, iraq may me hoping assad holds on to power. turkey may be hoping to limit its involvement because of the possibility of spillover. jordan has a terrible refugee problem from syrians coming over the border, and it's more concerned about that, not so much whether it wants to help with one side winning. so i'm no...

Normalization of turkish-israeli relationship because the turmoil in syria is right between turkey and israel. turkey and israel border jordan, and if turkey and israel can work better together on a common interest, maybe that will help. >> shepard: it has the refugee problem jordan is dialing with, maybe in larger numbers. >> exactly. >> shepard: what is your sense -- are we in a much better place today than two days ago? beg picture? >> the middle east, one step forward, two steps back. we saw that today in terms of what is happening in syria. it's only occasionally some good things happen. ...

Different lanes. >> all right. later on in our program, we'll tell you what dennis rodman just said moments ago about kim jong-un and when he's going back. some very interesting details here. we're going to play what you dennis rodman had to say just a couple of moments ago. later in the show, general jones talked passionately about a refugee problem in iraq and its links to iran. that's our "outfront web extra" on our blog, cnn.com/outfront. still to come, the man believed to be responsible for the colorado movie theater massacre expected to enter a plea. his defense team has a specific p...