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Putting these dynamics together. so the weather seems to be cooperating. we do understand they pumped a great deal of water out. does this still create somewhat of an ideal situation, as ideal as you say it can be for this situation with these teams to go in and try to rescue the others? >> this is their best opportunity. they're not going to wait any long longer. they're going to maximize the window to try to get these guys out. so this is the best scenario they're going to get. >> let's talk about the actual process they have in place. it seems to be a relay system. essentially shuttling per...

All the way in from the outside for experienced divers. that's why there are engineers saying, look. the only thing to do is set up a relay system here and pound through a supply hole from above to keep these kids alive until you can solve the bigger problem. erica? >> massive undertaking, tom. appreciate it as always. thank you. joining us, congressman scott taylor of virginia, a former navy s.e.a.l. thank you for being with us. when we see the way that tom lays that out and the challenges here, how would this happen? if you're bringing one of these kids out, are they just holding on to the...

Was terribly damaged is the part that holds the relay system that takes the information from the various recorders in the cockpit and feeds it through, and the data is kind of almost like a little stack of files. but the data section was intact. so there is still hope here and remember in september 11 2001 on the four planes that were crashed on that day, two of the four flight data recorders did survive those horrific fires. so there is still hope. it's going to be finding it that's going to be the biggest problem. >> it's such hard work up there on that hillside. mary thank you so much. th...

Where is that airplane? he communicated through a relay system to that other airplane and they couldn't raise them which is not untypical. but it still might have said these guys were busy with an emergency. they couldn't respond or they were in a situation where they were away from vhf radios where they couldn't. >> from where you are, martin, in that cockpit what you've been learning over this week that you've been sitting in there or longer with mitchell, is there a situation where you wouldn't have had any warning from that plane, any significant warning, that could have resulted in some s...

Device system that's used all over the world except in the united states. because we give them a free pass in the united states. >> what system is that, mike? >> the system's called the acoustic swish system, it's a relay system that blows out the bottom of the catastrophe. in other words, it stops the oil where it -- exactly from the source. here's what's interesting. if you have -- if b.p. has to do business in norway they have to use the switch. when they do it in the u.s. they don't have to use it. it happened because of this. during the bush deregulation years you had the mineral manageme...