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Bill that has obamacare repeal as a title. we got to actually have legislation that fixes the underlying problems. >> bill: he said to go things that will be significant in this debate. the cost of premiums and whether or not it is a true repeal. how do you trust that? >> from the true repeal perspective, what he is talking about, inside their version and our version to repeal the mandate, repeal the taxes, the things that were burdensome and the mandate for businesses to start with. and the other part is cost perspective. lowering cost means you are giving more choices into letting insurance ...

Couldn't do it. obamacare was murdered for them to get. now it's failed. it's virtually out of business. obamacare is a disaster. her trying to do something in a very short period of time. we want was on twitter last night about the senate plan. remember obamacare is dead. >> shannon: they join us live from the north one. >> one of the reasons why the president is so important of the health care bill is because the white house did play a very large hand behind the scenes trying to get this done and you can bet that the president will again be burning up the phone having meetings with the four ...

Moderates. as a go to this next negotiation. it's a difficult task. we've seen mitch mcconnell pull this kind of rabbit out of a hat before. he is very good at this kind of thing. if anyone could do it, it would be mitch mcconnell. the objections that the conservatives have our series objections. they are necessarily the kind of people who are grant standards or showboating. they genuinely believe that what's been offered does not actually repeal obamacare and that's what they've been trying to do for seven years. >> bill: we will handle this issue a lot in the coming days here. mcconnell is s...

People real hope, not false hope. what we are doing is lowering the cost and we do that by going to the building. the people in the house we were able to overcome those, senator cruz is one that will be able a part of making it happen. we look forward to seeing it. >> bill: i curious to sissy with a more conservative members say is we go forward on that. have you been in contact with the president on this? >> we just came out of a meeting with the white house staff. they are letting the senate do their work, they are supportive of a plan to get to it. it's a major premise of the president. he'...

Something better. we are trying to deal with an almost infinite need for finite resources and if we don't bring innovation and market forces to bear, we can't solve the equation. >> shannon: they are very specific things he wanted in the house bill that got you on board. some of those things may not show up what we get from the senate. you mention the conference committee. is it possible your vote is lost along the way? as you mentioned, obamacare, republicans say, it is basically going to be in shambles. is it something you really don't want and sticking with obamacare? >> there are so many o...