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Rep rate. so that's already going in our face. they also heard two of them. there l two pinger, out there. one for the cockpit voice recorder. so that's good. they listened to one of them for more than an hour, which is really great -- >> two, two hours. >> -- so they're not just jumping to conclusions, they must be fairly strongly certain this is the black boxes. >> two hours, the remarkable nature of this is not only did they have the two hours of straight listening but when they turned the ship around and returned, they re-established contact, albeit for only 13 minutes. but that's signific...

Half and that apparently it has a pulse signal of 37.5 a kilohertz, what is -- what's encouraging to you about this information? >> well, that's encouraging, because that's the secret number for the frequency for the black box pingers, and the rep rate was about right, meaning it makes that noise about every second. the idea it was only heard a short bit, i kind of get that the water depth of that area goes from shallower than 2,000 meters, less than a mile and a half, to greater than 5,000 meters which is about three miles. depending on where it is inside there, i could see that the signal co...