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>> i haven't heard that, but obviously that is something that circulates among some circles. i don't think it's a majority of people here, but it's certainly reprehensible when you see somebody like alex jones, for instance, pushing insane conspiracy theories as a way to justify his views. and i think most gun owners would find that reprehensible. >> it gets into the trust issue, the lack of trust, if you don't believe even the basic reports. and, by the way, the texas officials made it worse by misleading the public for days they caused even more space for conspiracy theory to take root, they...

More than ask ourselves, we have to take action to stop it, to stop it after this buffalo, new york, incident, to make sure that other communities, that other families don't go through this again. >> sadly, mr. mayor, what you've been said to me has been said by a lot of mayors in moments like this and you just pointed it out and that's the wash, rinse, repeat cycle of washington not listening to the mayors on this is very frustrating. you know, i know there's not a lot more that can be done, i guess, other than rhetoric here. but is there something else you'd like to see done? >> well, i woul...

Legal fees paid, and despite all of that, the gop remains cowering in the wings, willing to undermine democracy in a desperate search for a bully's approval. it ain't going to happen. the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results. republicans will still be stuck in this repeat cycle until they learn the key lesson, expressed in phil rucker's new book. most of trump's failings can be explained by a simple truth, he cares more about himself than the country. and that's your reality check. >> you know, cheap and honest, cheap and dishonest...

Very interesting and could be potentially criminal, and were certainly something that could lead to civil liability at the federal and criminal level. >> let's move to the politics here. sahil, i had, my ep and i had a conversation last night about this story. it's both hugely consequential and possibly politically inconsequential, at least for a while. republicans have been through this wash, rinse, and repeat cycle with donald trump and investigations for five years now. are they numb to this? >> for the most part, chuck, yes, i suspect they are. i think the republicans break down into three...

They're trying to keep the 2016 election alive and the investigation alive when the american people have heard enough. >> mitch mccouldn't didn't say anything about an election security bill. president trump is in a wash, rinse, repeat cycle, and he has been since he came down that escalator for years ago tomorrow to announce this run for the presidency. say or do something controversial, country reacts in outrage. say or do nothing, country reacts in new outrage and forgets the last controversial they were outraged about. and that puts democrats in a tough spot playing wily coyote to presiden...