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Distinction and late in the game to argue for that. >> do you concede they are fighting to protect, jennifer, at least the architecture, blueprint of it? >> structure of it, but in doing it in a manner that summates what impact -- >> once democrats guess control of the presidency -- >> seven years to figure it out. nine months to pass something. and they have jammed something together that, you know if we allow for your structural architecture argument, has a huge impact on people's lives and i just don't see any way they'll get this done. >> they keep most taxes and spending and regulation of...

Democrats in obamacare. and they'll actually innovate to try to bring premiums down, like maine did, with an invisible pool. do this not one a one size fits all model with obamacare. >> senator, i believe you, you're committed to doing that but didn't tell me how, what's the accountability here? how do you -- you know -- a state can -- nothing in the word intend that guarantees anything. i understand that you believe -- >> chuck, guaranteed remains law of the land. guaranteed issue means the law of the land. >> how do you enforce this and who decides what is affordable and adequate? you know? ...

82% make less than $50,000. obamacare isn't working. >> i'm not asking about obamacare, senator. >> i have greater faith in state and local officials caring about their individuals. they're going to be compassionate, chuck. what your premise is. >> i believe you. >> that they won't be. >> no. >> good. we don't have a problem. it's going to work. >> senator, as you know, if you don't write it into the law, it doesn't always get followed, sir. i mean, we have been through this. >> chuck what is obamacare called? patient protection affordable care act. millions lost insurance. the forgotten men a...

I realize maybe you don't and certainly democrats don't, but the proof is in the pudding. obamacare has failed. it's failing individuals, real harm and damage done by obamacare. i'd rather turn it over to the states. makes a lot more sense and by the way -- distributed far more fairly. >> is there any mechanism here that guarantees the protection on preexisting conditions? because this sentence as written is not a guarantee. >> it's the law of the land. >> it's a promise. not a guarantee rnts it's the law of the land. >> "intend" is not a promise. intend is -- >> a guaranteed issue. guaranteed...

A simple explanation -- senator, a simple explanation for that. those three states close to participate in the program. had the states of texas and florida done that, that percentage you just rattled off to me -- the unfairness, blamed the republican governors, no? >> chuck, we're $20 trillion in debt. chuck, do you have kids? >> of course i do. >> are you concerned about the fact with mortgaging our kids' future, $20 trillion in debt more than $120 trillion in the next 20 years. obamacare exacerbated that and out of control spending exasperated the prock. we have to begin putting control over...