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And to drive up the reality that there are problems on the border. >> what is the signal to the trump base? it seems like that's what a lot of this plays into. >> the president is going to keep pushing for border wall funding. i talked to an administration official yesterday who made the point the $8.6 billion in extra border wall funding was key because it would allow the president to finish 722 miles of border wall. that's the message they really want out there that even if they're blocked by congress or the courts in terms of this national emergency, the president is still trying. that's wh...

Wall so this claim that's been a lie by more than 100 times it will cease to become a lie when that 6 or 14 miles of barrier is under construction. >> he usually has his own construction of something that will cover him if he's called out on stuff. so was it the repair job that was done on existing barrier that you think maybe he uses as his cover? >> that's precisely what he has done. he put up pictures on twitter. i claim we started building the wall. when he has put up those pictures they have been of replacement fencing. long planned projects. not based on trump's prototypes. they're fenci...

>> the bottom line is the president remains committed to getting the wall built. >> i mean, obviously we've been hearing about the national emergency powering powers. it's hard to understand what's going on in the president's brain. is 55 miles enough? is that enough for him to declare victory and say, okay, i get my new wall. he probably puts a plaque on it. which he already did with some replacement fencing. is that enough for him to feel comfortable that he goes back to voters and say i got 55 new miles, or does he feel he has to go above and beyond that? >> wait, did he put his name in a p...

Facts. we've been hijacked by these false narratives of drug dealers, terrorists, and criminals rushing across the border, when the reality is the majority of them are parents with their children trying to flee violence. a wall will not be an effective solution to the crisis we face today. there can be bipartisan consensus on an effective solution, but we cannot have our american public deprived of a fair debate when it's based on these false facts. >> what would you say to the president to let him save face? what would you tell him to do? >> listen, let's build a little bit of replacement fen...

Yearly event. so what's different this year? it's drawing the administration's attention as congress failed to fully fund trump's wall in this year's federal budget. a month ago the president tweeted these pictures saying the clex co-wall was the start of the southern border wall. it's not. listen to the vice president's words. >> this is the beginning of the southern border wall. from fiscal '17 budget, a replacement project. but look at the border wall, this new wall is roughly two or three times taller than the wall that was here today. >> and you hear the vice president there acknowledging...