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You can't see it, because we can't show you what 40 out of 197 million looks like, because it's so small it's basically invisible. the problem with our voting system isn't reverse racism, it's the system that puts obstacle in front of obstacle for those who want to exercise their basic rights. >> i want to thank every american who participated in this election. whether you voted for the very first time or waited in line for a very long time. by the way we have to fix that. >> the president met with that ten member bipartisan commission one prominent voting law expert called the report one of t...

By the way we have to fix that. >> the president met with that ten member bipartisan commission one prominent voting law expert called the report one of the most effective. joining me now is reverend stories jr. he's the former chairman which was created by congress in 2001 in the wake of the 2000 election debacle. and was the first to watch over voting issues. >> we had a national moment after the 2000 election. we passed the help america vote act. we're going to fix it, you were appointed the chair, and what happened? >> well, at that point it was clear that fixing it meant buying new machin...