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Heart of a presidential campaign, you knew it could potentially hurt the president and you didn't want to do that? we won't know the answer to that today. >> no, i think mr. shulman's testimony yesterday, he said he sort of knew it, but didn't know the whole thing. >> it was under investigation. >> right. he knows it's under investigation. the question, whether you knew where the investigation was leading, how far along, and, carol, i could also add there is sort of another side show going on, not in this congressional hearing room, but over at the white house, which is sort of -- well, what d...

Get out. yeah, words can't even describe, how you feel, and a lot of thank yous. >> joined now by cnn's chief medical correspondent, first, how did you find this doctor as a person? >> you know, i know a lot of doctors in these various community, when a story like this is happening, a lot of times i start calling people that i know who work at these trauma center and quickly get an idea of who was where at the time, and just like you, reporti reporting, making the calls. in this case, she was the emergency room doctor sort of in charge at that time. they didn't get a lot of notice she told me....

Including 9 children. one life lost is precious, and too many, certainly, for the family who loses a loved one. but it is important to remember, that the government had had higher numbers yesterday. they were expecting more than that. this adjustment to this number which they say they believe will not change is welcome news to everyone, obviously. that said, first responders have told us and the fire chief told us this morning who is heading up search and recovery, they're almost done, by tonight, they're done with search and rescue through the entire area. they've looked at everything most pl...

Correspondent susan candiotti who is following the story. >> it's unclear any links have been made, but according to the law enforcement official, that's what the fbi was looking at. they learned early on, through investigative leads that led them to this man, in orlando. because they said, they had information that he knew the tsarnaev brothers. both of them, tamerlan and dzhokhar. that's why they've been taking a look at them for a good month now after the bombing. what led to the shooting, we're not sure, other than to say that a source tells that you say the fbi shot this man in self-defen...

Internet. so she is somebody who is a name and a face. from her perspective, maybe the villain in this scandal, and she wanted to, in her own words, even before she invoked that right, that constitutional right, she had. get at her story and change the narrative just slightly to have that headline with that one sound bite that was very carefully crafted "i did not do anything wrong." >> and it's important to note, if she's found guilty of lying to congress, she could go to jail, is that right? >> sure. and there's a criminal investigation pending as she pointed out that the department of justi...