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Specificity from police and law enforcement on that matter as the night goes on, particularly because that scene around the suv does appear to be a settled scene, so presumably they'll be able to give us more information about anything they recovered there. now, it appears that in terms of those two suspects killed at that suv, it appeared that one was killed on the street right next to the suv, possibly a person either ejected from the vehicle or who tried to leave the vehicle. the other person appears to have been killed in the backseat of the vehicle. shortly after that gun battle, s.w.a.t....

I know it's still brand in new, but just wondering what your thought process is. >> my thought process is i'm going to go to the gym and just let the gym workout take me wherever it takes me. and i'm a prayful person, and i just pray for all those families that lost their loved ones and never knew that was going to happen today. >> do you know anyone today who did lose a loved one? did you meet anyone? >> no, i did not. no, i did not. >> and you believe also of those people were in that conference room from what you understand? >> yes, yes. yes. >> we thank you so much. >> thank you. >> who's ...

Agnostic on the subject of wether or not this might be terrorism. tonight, the special agent in charge in southern california intimating that police and law enforcement are looking more seriously at that prospect than they might have been earlier in the day. obviously, in terms of firm information, we have no information one way or the other about whether or not it might be terrorism. and of course, if it's terrorism linked to a larger organization, that is important in terms of whether or not this is an ongoing subject, whether this is an ongoing incident, whether this is linked to something ...

Just so -- i may have to stop here for a moment and take a call here, rachel, but let me just say that several law enforcement officials have told us that one of the attackers is an american citizen named saeed farouk. and there is some connection between that name and the house that they're searching in redlands, california, which is about 70 miles from l.a., about 10 miles from san bernardino. so that's one piece of information. the second thing is, rachel, you heard the fbi special agent in charge out there in l.a. say they couldn't rule out terrorism, but he said it in such a way that seem...

[ laughter ] >> if you have the right healthy care and cross that with homeland security and huge information technology. >> paul: just so i understand. if i under pay my taxes, i say you owe us "x" amount of dollars. now if i apply for federal health insurance and i make a little more than what i'm supposed to, irs will be able to say, you don't qualify, so you pay a fine, sorry, you have to pay "x" dollars? >> right. what they will be looking at do you have the right kind of health care. if you don't, you pay a penalty. they will be calculated ago subsidy and everybody in the health care ind...