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Tapes have now been turned over. i believe that there are recordings beyond 12, anderson, and i know for a fact that there is more than one recording between michael cohen and donald trump. as i sit here right now, i don't know which specific 12 we're talking about or the press is reporting on. so i can't comment as to whether within those 12 there is more than one with the president's voice on it. >> do you know are there ones -- you said you know there are other ones with the president. it was reported there were ones of hang-ups or voice mail saying hey, call me back. do you know that -- do...

A potted plant, you are not interacting or negotiating. whatever the prebrief they had with president trump before the press conference, that's how it works. you sit around your adviser and you say here is the question that we think you are going to get. whatever push back advise they were giving him which i expect she's doing but he was not listening to her. >> you can see her sitting between secretary pompeo and john kelly there. she's the only woman on the table other than the translator. kristen welker, your thoughts as we wrap up coverage for today as you go into reporting on president tr...

Type of vulnerable situation. it would be tough for trump not to do it, how public he he is willing and wants to. >> joyce, moving on to the other piece of information that jeff bentet was reporting on, michael cohen, in that rudy giuliani has agreed not to interview or address that issue. we know that don't we? >> we think that that is where this is headed. it is obviously been spun off to southern district of new york. i would caution, this is rudy giuliani's version of the facts. his statements have not been reality. you don't know as a prosecutor what will come up during an

In fact, he said some things suggesting he did know it was going on. >> you talk about being on the wrong side of history. again and again, these incidents that were put aside are now coming back. we've seen people losing jobs that they have been offered because of their past involvement with some of these scandals. and what we see is that so many young athletes over the years clearly were victimized in this way and only now are some of them getting some kind of justice or vindication. >> mike, before you go, tell us about axios' report this morning on trump's blind spot. >> just one? >> i mea...

Emails and then shared with others or drafted using f.b.i. resources such as a laptop computer and this appears to conflict with the former director's senate testimony after he was fired where he said there were personal recollections or personal notes when they look much different when you see them in person, bill. >> bill: interesting. thank you, catherine herridge reporting on that today leading this hour in washington >> sandra: more on all this fox news contributor guy benson, political editor of town hall.com. so far from what you've been able to see and turned over what are you able to ...