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Issues, but explain, do you think there was another shoe about to drop? because he caught john boehner by surprise and people in the gop by surprise by the resignation and it seems as if there is more to come. >> i'm not sure people have survived worse than this. if it is what it seems, if it is what people assume it is and what our reporting shows, if he in fact misbilled the government for miles he said he drove that he didn't drive, that is potentially breaking federal law. so i'm not sure what is worse than that. i mean a lot of members of congress get into trouble. we've seen it over the ...

You know, i think that genuinely they love each other and they are working on their marriage, and she, huma, is an incredibly powerful person in her own right. she is not running for office, but she is incredibly accomplished, and, you know, is hillary clinton's right-hand person. and to say that -- if you were saying that she's in it for power, that's not what our reporting shows. >> i think power is an aphrodisiac. any way, thank you, betsy glick. thank you for coming on for "people" magazine. it's on the stands. a great issue. i think i bought the last issue -- i bought the kate issue. i'll...

Timeline of what he told his wife and what he told the public. and i don't think this is a relationship about power. they have a very small child together. you know, i think that genuinely they love each other and they are working on their marriage, and she, huma, is an incredibly powerful person in her own right. she is not running for office, but she is incredibly accomplished, and, you know, is hillary clinton's right-hand person. and to say that -- if you were saying that she's in it for power, that's not what our reporting shows. >> i think power is an aphrodisiac. any way, thank you, bet...

People. you have to look at the effects. general mcchrystal, when he was there, made very plain, although he was increasing these raised himself, he pointed out, if you kill one taliban commander, he'll be replaced. he can be replaced by two. what we've seen is that that sort of talk was talked politically but our reporting shows -- publicly, but our reporting shows they're quite wetted to the idea 0 take people out in great numbers and you start to win. you have to win over the population. this is a counter insurgency. certainly our reporting shows they haven't won over the afghan people on t...

Stuff, and it's a sign that nancy pelosi's power has definitely faded in this new congress. >> she still has the power to raise hell when she wants to. for instance, according to politico's reporting, gene sperling at a private meeting about the outlines of the budget. she didn't like the fact that she felt that congress wasn't consulted. what happened there? >> yeah, well, i mean, this deal came together between the senate majority leader, harry reid, the president and john boehner. they were afraid, a lot of folks were afraid that if pelosi got in the room, she would push the deal to the lef...