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Judgment? it was a course description. if you passed a course description for a public university to a foreigner whom you did not know was a spy, will you be betraying your country? >> i tend not to hang out with russian spies because i am trying to get a deal. >> [overlapping talking]. >> i love this country. >> tucker: you are saying carter page doesn't love this country. carter page, where did you go to college? >> the u.s. naval academy. >> tucker: you are accusing him of being unpatriteotic. he was a naval officer but doesn't love his country? >> i don't know what is in his heart. i head ...

Got at least through spot, assess, and they were in the middle of develop, that stage, where develop is basically establish a relationship, begin to provide favors, seek some things in return. and you may recall that i think it was in 2015 that carter page more or less acknowledged that he had been in touch with an intelligence operative from russia and actually provided some help to the fbi. so, there's a lot of reasons why carter page would get on the fbi's screen for a counter intelligence purpose. >> right. so, jeff mason, the larger point here. the fisa warrant we're talking about is agai...

>> all right. well, we're going to leave this here. but we are going to have much more ahead this hour. congressman chris collins of new york, he says that the abuse at the highest levels of the d.o.j. is the stuff of hollywood and that the fisa warrant should never have been issued for carter page. plus, the state of play for mid terms changing rapidly, we're going to talk about whether democrats are starting to lose their polling advantage and therefore their hopes of retaking the house. kasie d.c. back right after this. next time, i want you on my bowling team. [ laughs ] rodney. bowling....

Now. the "wall street journal" reports carter page was on the radar of u.s. counter intelligence since at least 2013, and now there is this. time magazine reports it's obtained a letter from august 2013 which -- in which page apparently touted being an informal advisor to the kremlin. in the letter page writes, quote, over the past half year, i have had the privilege to serve as an informal advisor to the staff of the kremlin in preparation for their presidency of the g-20 summit next month where energy issues will be a prominent point on the agenda. according to time, carter page told the meg...

Russia is all about energy. and you also invest in a source. you don't know quite where that's going to go, but you say maybe in the future this person might be useful to us in some way. i think with carter page they got at least through spot, assess, and they were in the middle of develop, that stage, where develop is basically establish a relationship, begin to provide favors, seek some things in return. and you may recall that i think it was in 2015 that carter page more or less acknowledged that he had been in touch with an intelligence operative from russia and actually provided some help...