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Witnesses in the impeachment hearing itself is kind of conclusive proof, which is why, joy, when they ask a representative collins, who were the witnesses who are going to come in and defend the president and say what he did was not a crime and not impeachable. and representative collins is like, adam schiff. no, that would be like me, as the prosecutor, putting all of my 12 incriminating witnesses on and then the defense turning to the judge and say, now we want prosecutor kershner to testify? it makes no sense and highlights the fact the president has no defense to his crimes. >> the thing t...

Was? >> i was very surprised at that and also, this has been the narrative for a long time about this trump tower meeting that lasted for a total of 20 minutes. if even in his report he says that. so how can you not know? if you've looked at everything to do with that trump tower meeting, you know that house republicans have been talking about this for months. it was in our report that we wrote about glenn simpson and fusion gps b -- meeting with natalia pessimist gaia -- supposedly have the dirt. the fact remains that glenn simpson, who was working for the clinton campaign, met without lawyer...

They wanted to take away because even though it lay that out quite clearly that exoneration is not the duty of this task, it's not part of what they can determine. it's only whether or not there's enough evidence to prosecute and if you don't have it, then you don't have it and that's the end of the story. i want to get to some of what you were doing today, congressman collins, because you -- i think that a lot of americans hope that now we are going to get some things done on capitol hill and i think you expressed sort of a similar feeling today when you were talking about immigration at a he...

With the senate and the democrat-controlled house. that's what happened today. >> martha: i understand, but a lot of fiscal conservatives talk about the fact, congressman collins, that they felt like they got nothing in this deal. >> that's just not true. we stood with the president on this. if the president put his weight behind it and we did talk about the military. if you look at the spending bill the democrats are to put forward, the sexually -- that means we are saving money. only focus on discretionary spending and deal with mandatory spending, we're simply talking to each other encode s...

Luckily, somebody got to mr. mueller during the break and he had to come out and correct it during our committee. >> martha: representative collins, you questioned him strongly as well. were you surprised -- sort of feeling that he was coming in there and he was going to have these sort of phrases that he was going to say and it would be sort of sound bite-ready and he would rattle those off and it would be useful -- i just wonder how much democrats actually knew about the way that robert mueller was going to approach this and how -- how this was going to go. it felt to me like they might have...