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This regardless of the political consequences. you've already seen republicans raise a lot of money from the trump campaign about impeachment. >> you know, when we look at representative van drew, when i was pressing representative dingell, she respected his process, every member's process, jackie. and the question is, how many roudas have there been that are waiting for the report in terms of a summary and a readout of the articles and exactly what happened during the deliberations? how many might there be, and how many debbie dingells might there be on the left? >> that's a question that we'...

Public to report on what he saw and to share what he saw. and so i think that's a copout. i think general mattis has been taking a pass on his role and allowing a lot of things we're debating here today to happen. i wish general mattis would use his voice and speak up. >> we're talking about representative dingell, debbie dingell. she responds to the president and this is what she said. we have the tweet. i've always said i'll work with president trump when he wants to help hard-working men and women, but i'll also work to hold the administration accountable. debbie dingell responding to the p...

But if the white house is whipping, should the democrats also do that? as they look at the numbers we put up on screen now. >> as a matter of strategy, i think they should. but i do agree with representative dingell. this is a matter of moral and ethical responsibility that those members swore an oath to the constitution to uphold. and you do have to set a standard. if you don't set a standard now, then what? what's the guideline, the line, if you will, for any future president to do whatever he or she decides to do regardless of the rules of our country? that may come at a political price, ri...

The senior whip? not going to whip votes. clearly, appears that the white house or the trump team is trying to figure out the numbers here. >> yeah. i think this makes congresswoman dingell's job easier since she's not having to pester colleagues to vote one way or another. but i don't think nancy pelosi would be bringing impeachment to the floor next week if she didn't think that it would pass because it would be very embarrassing if they brought that impeachment motion on the floor. and then more than 17 democrats defect. so i think congresswoman dingell and many other democrats feel like th...

Will. those progressives known as the squad, or aoc plus three. congresswoman ocasio-cortez, who has been pushing in the last 24 to 48 hours for members to look at impeachment. how much is the press for that to happen today? how is it shifting, chad? i showed congressman john lewis of georgia, to representative dingell, just to get her reaction. it has become an impassioned plea. what is flipping that emotion? >> a lot of it is when you have someone with the civil rights back background and the conscious of the house. a civil rights icon like john lewis. that starts to move the plates tectonic...