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What we can discover in the selects committee. and that's why representative schiff already said we're jumping straight subpoenas because we're not trying to waste time with people who will be resistant to abiding by or responding to this. and schiff knows what he's talking about based on responses he got issued in previous impeachment trials where trump administration officials just ignored it essentially. and so now with this white house, with this doj that are already encouraging trump officials to cooperate with congressional inquiries, hopefully we get somewhere. and as chairman thompson ...

And rod rosenstein all say they didn't know about it. so who did? let's bring in general naturally katyal, also chuck rosenberg, both legal analysts. chuck, what happens when they subpoena records? what exactly happens? >> this segment follows nicely from your last one about putin, because these are really putin-esque tactics, and what's going on in these stories, and it's unclear whether or not don mcgahn or congressional opponents like representative schiff and eric swalwell were directly targeted, but what we do know thus far is at least their information was sought by investigators. maybe ...

Subpoena to something that is an allegation that is criminal. and there is no evidence they did. in terms of the minor, it is possible that someone had reported that they thought that there was a leak coming from a particular person and that person to avoid detection was using their child's telephone. so there is a possibility, when you put everything together in this case, you have to conclude that this was politically motivated. the president was directing that these people be investigated. he was particularly enemies with representative swalwell, with senator -- with representative schiff, ...

Never been one to mince words. you're on the intel committee. have you been contacted about any sort of nefarious behavior with anyone, with you, your staff, family members such as we know happened with representative schiff and swalwell? i mean, they were told their records were seized. have you been contacted with anything like that? >> i don't think i have, alex. it turns out that apple was contacting people by email, and so everybody's frantically searching their spam folders and that sort of thing but at this point, it doesn't look like i was one of the lawmakers that was targeted. but th...

With vladimir putin. the sidelines of a global summit. unprecedented conduct all around contacts between trump figures and russia. all of it as robert mueller investigating the ties to russia. so doj at this time crosses this red line. they subpoena apple for the phone records and they find nothing. they debate amongst themselves shutting it down. what do you think happens next? enter bill barr. bill barr gets there and revives the dead end probe into schiff. he revives a dead end and extremely aggressive investigation into someone who has replaced james comey as the twitter obsession. trump t...