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One with ten times more money, and you know what, he paid a fine. so what happened is either cohen or the prosecutors, in order to embarrass me, said listen, i making this deal for reduced time and everything else. do me a favor. put these two charges on who they are not criminal charges. >> dana: we are going to take it around the table. emily, let's start with you. democratic political elites, the establishment, they know the political and perils of going for impeachment. but the base, they really want president trump to be impeach. they are kind of between a rock and a hard place. >> emily:...

Of a company that was being paid by hillary clinton and the democratic national committee. so it was the merger of those two things that created the controversy we're witnessing today and that has put christopher steele squarely the crossfire. >> how well sourced is he or was he in russia? >> so because he's so much in the news and is really the subject, if you will, of the house intelligence committee nunes memo and the response memo that the white house is considering releasing today, authorized by representative schiff and the democrats, because he's sort of central to that, what we wanted ...

Published it, though simpson didn't mention buzzfeed, after that happened, there appeared to be a purge in the kremlin. simpson said he didn't think anything of his sources were part of that purge, but he did believe some folks who were sources for the united states intelligence community were actually purged, as a response the kremlin had to this dossier. and by purging, simpson meant folks were arrested and some folks were even killed. we have focused a lot on how the trump/russia story affects the united states, how it affects our politics, our system of governance. one of the things that h...

You will, between russian sketchy forces and the trump organization. that was really global in nature. >> i mean, it's a sort of an astounding thing to contend, but it is part of what the steele dossier is about. >> absolutely. and i would say, i mean, probably the number one question i get asked socially is to explain if -- if, if trump's business model was involved in money laundering, how did it work? i would say this is now the defining text. you should read it. he lays out the argument very clearly. >> for how money would move through trump properties as a means of laundering that money? ...

Didn't mention buzzfeed, after that happened, there appeared to be a purge in the kremlin. simpson said he didn't think anything of his sources were part of that purge, but he did believe some folks who were sources for the united states intelligence community were actually purged, as a response the kremlin had to this dossier. and by purging, simpson meant folks were arrested and some folks were even killed. we have focused a lot on how the trump/russia story affects the united states, how it affects our politics, our system of governance. one of the things that hasn't gotten a lot of focus i...