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Out of meetings where they would have been discussing pensions. do you feel like a brand-new investigation is warranted? we know at least one member of congress is calling for that to happen. >> we would appreciate anything congress can do. we have been part of five hearings so far. we have bipartisan support in both the house and senate to get this resolved. but nothing has happened. we appreciate particularly representative turner's work in this. but again we have been fighting this lawsuit for three years. and during those three years we listened to, you know, continuous speeches on the par...

Your opinion? >> it's clear that if you're going to have an america for everybody that everyone qualified should be able to perform. it's not about quotas. it's about representing all american people. to act as though, to include people of color on the cabinet, something that republican and democratic governors have done since the early '60s in ohio is act like they're really not qualified, people of color. they can only get there by a quota. which is not true and insulting. if governor patrick, a black governor of massachusetts did it, he would be widely criticized and moved out and i would s...

Administration and what should the action be at this point in your opinion? >> it's clear that if you're going to have an america for everybody that everyone qualified should be able to perform. it's not about quotas. it's about representing all american people. to act as though, to include people of color on the cabinet, something that republican and democratic governors have done since the early '60s in ohio is act like they're really not qualified, people of color. they can only get there by a quota. which is not true and insulting. if governor patrick, a black governor of massachusetts did...