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Because they're retiring or feel like they faced far worse than president trump in their life. and then you have these other people who aren't quite ready to come forward. >> and shannon, were you surprised this president who has quite an aversion to talking points and sticking to them, using the word unity over the past 24 hours. >> it seems like an ironic day to be talking about unity, but i do think there is a point he is trying to make or maybe it's not necessarily he's trying to make it, but i do think there is a level of unity out there when it comes to policy on a lot of issues. i mean,...

And now here he is bragging on the republicans unity. is this the big question? is it organic or opportunistic? >> when i talked to people who know him well, they have characterized this to me, as him still trying to figure out the lay of the land, who his friends are, who his allies are who his negotiating partners are, how does washington work, who can i trust? who can i count on. you may have thought we would have figured this out right now. clearly the president is still trying to test the waters, the landscape, i think that's what's going on here. that seems to be what the people who know...