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Higher material. the material is 70% enriched. some have higher enrichments than that. >> research reactors tend to be smaller in scale but have scarier stuff? >> exactly. the material is smaller so it's easier to transport. a field rod is something you can pick up and walk off on your own. you would not pick it up and walk off with it unless you're crazy because you'll die. >> something that comes out of a nuclear reactor, something that is spent fuel. if that's so radio active that grabbing hold of it kills you, it sort of self-protects. that makes it less stealable. >> much higher and much ...

Some have higher enrichments than that. >> research reactors tend to be smaller in scale but have scarier stuff? >> exactly. the material is smaller so it's easier to transport. a field rod is something you can pick up and walk off on your own. you would not pick it up and walk off with it unless you're crazy because you'll die. >> something that comes out of a nuclear reactor, something that is spent fuel. if that's so radio active that grabbing hold of it kills you, it sort of self-protects. that makes it less stealable. >> much higher and much more attractive target. >> why would mexico be ...

Regardless of location, ukraine, mexico, chile it doesn't matter. my office is in charge. >> everywhere the nsa is collecting nuclear material, you are in charge of the logistics. >> that's correct. >> can you tell people what you do? like when you leave to do something like this, where does your family think you are going. >> my family in general knows the location of where i am going. it is not classified where i am going but the operation and details of the operation. >> what should people understand about the difference between what we think of as nuclear power reactors and research reacto...

My office is still in charge. >> you are in charge? >> that is correct. >> can you tell people what do you do? like when you leave to do this where does your family think you're going? >> it's not classified where i'm going and just what the details are of the operation. >> what should people understand about the difference between what we think of as nuclear power reactors and research reactors? >> the biggest difference is the material itself. the material is only like 3 to 4%. it's not material a terrorist can use. >> highly enriched uranium is consideringed 20%. >> the research reactors th...

Of all mankind. >> the works that president obama is talking about is the ambitious goal laid out in the summit of securing all of the world's loose nuclear material within four years. not just american pledge, but a world pledge. this two-day summit which officially wrapped up today involved 49 leaders from around the world. among them, the president of south africa, jacob zuma, president obama met with him on sunday. in the 1970s and 1980s, south africa, of course, was under the control of an apartheid government which aspired very much to be a nuclear power. during those two decades, south ...