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Can from one of your local stores. you have to be a smart shopper but if you can support local business, do that as well. >> absolutely. thanks so much for being here. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> have a great weekend. leland: laura, do you have your christmas tree yet? >> yeah. leland: you're ahead of the crowd because there's a nationwide shortage. we will tell you how you can beat the shortage. small business saturday, what does that really mean, the best ways small businesses are competing with the big box stores. >> the retail side this is the super bowl. you're looking to make con...

Business with ivanka. i do not by this excuse that her sales are suffering. they were using ivanka to set up, i think it was the first nordstrom's in manhattan, if i'm not mistaken. she was going to be the anchor of the retail side of it. she's got amazingly great taste. >> sandra: when you look at nordstrom's, macy's was also involved in all this, they are trying to find relevancy at a point which department stores transfers are being questioned for if they should even be around or not. there are in competition with amazon. it's a tough world to be a retailer right now. i think the question g...

Impacted by this incident? >> it's certainly been a big impact. the rafting portion of the business has been shut down -- just shut down. we're down probably 70% on the retail side. it's a big hit. >> can you make this up at all over the rest of this summer or is this just a total loss as far as where you are now? >> we're in the recreational business. we're used to some level of uncertainty in this business. this is different because we were having our best year ever. so we go from 100 miles per hour to zero all at once. fortunately, our business is retail, other things. there are a lot of bu...

Future or next year how people are feeling, especially for retail businesses, how they do this month is going to really effect their outlook for next year. how is retail doing right now for small businesses? >> again, i think it's a mix of -- i think it's a mix of good and bad right now. i think many cases we overstate how urgent the christmas and holiday season is for retailers. obviously, very important, but i think we end up focusing a little bit too much on that, but i think if we look toward 2014, as we were talking about washington, i also think small business owners need to take a very ...

Just about everything. and overall online retailers are expecting increase in cyber money deals. they're expecting to see about $2 billion in sales. a coup for the on line retailers who have seen things rise and rise ever since cyber monday was first coined in 2005. back to you. >> wow. definitely looks busy. thank you. and now for your first look at business, we turn to hampton peer son. good morning. >> how you doing? we're going to look at the other side of the shopping week and retail side. shop more, spend less, the national retail federation says 141 million people hit the stores this ...