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Uncle, whom he doesn't have a close relationship, instead of to you. >> they believe there needs to be a reunification process in order it get liam comfortable with me so they can send him back. they believe he's so estranged it would be traumatic for him to be returned to me, you know, he's been traumatized by everything happened to him including what they've done and put him in an orphanage, et cetera. i would agree that we need to have a reunification process, i don't think it's going to take as long as they do. we know from the research here that this can be done very, very quickly. >> if ...

Repeatedly said the threat's gone. >> probably the last one just because the nature of this, the way trump has hyped it. they've got to find some kind of deal somewhere. there is a need for that. i think looking at this moment by moment, the iran deal process took something like three or four years. so i think we are in a long-term process. i'd be curious if trump sort of ratchets this down a little bit. he's raised the level quickly, but in reality, it's probably not going to happen. we're looking to have some kind of multiyear, very complicated agreement here, somewhat like what we had with ...

I just saw her on tv. i don't know how we should handle this. >> it is a very difficult thing. obviously in our -- you know, we are under the nbc news umbrella, we follow nbc news standards and as a matter of course, somebody who can't consent having their image used in a video, we don't use their image in a video. it's something we're super careful about when it comes to kids. but it does dove tail to what was in the new york post, they're thinking of taking these mug shots of these kids, which is insane, taking mug shots of the kids, immigration attorneys say that the images are of trying ch...

Shots but apparently the government has some idea they'll use pictures of these kids somewhere in the reunification process if they ever get that process up and running. i mean, i know what we had to do in terms of getting that video on the air in a way i feel ethically sound about but what you say is true. >> you and i saw it without blurred faces and it is a more powerful video without blurred faces. it has much more impact. but i'm just raising the question and i'm raising it with you and everyone else in this business. i think what "the washington post" is considering is something that is ...

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