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Ifou look at vehicle ramming, it's normally carried out by islamist attackers. we can think about the london bridge and westminster bridge attacks. gregg: if this is as you describe, and i think it's a realistic possibility given the photograph i have taken a look at of what appears to be the suspect. you maybe right about this, a revenge attack. does that underscore how much anger there may be among the populists over the myriad attacks london suffered over the last several months? >> i think the attackers carrying out this sort of vicious attack will be seen by

Of london all eyes on him, what do they need to do? this is happening way too frequently there? >> you know there are a few things, but we need to see from prime minister from mayor, is real leadership. i am talking -- this is going to have all kinds of affect, i am talking to friends could, family, and colleagues in u.s., people are being scared to go to london. to go to paris, to key you know, tourist places, all over europe, i think they are going to start to see a real affect, from a leadership stand point, i would like to see tomorrow or in morning in uk, is that if this was a revenge att...

Out there and try to thin that out and because you don't want some follow on attack. you really want to thin that out, take care of the victims first. if they have the assailant in question, in custody, and he's alive, questioning can begin to determine motive, you know, what is it? a drunk, directly targeted attack, who was the driver targeting if it was a targeted attack? you know, richard, we have all been on talking about england, from manchester to london bridge to westminster, and the climate over there, you know, we could also see a revenge attack, people, you know, targeting muslim pop...

Happened just three weeks ago in london. we have -- am i profound inning this right? zuhdi jasser, my apologies, the president for islamic forum for democracy and lieutenant commander for the u.s. navy. thank you for joining us, what do you make of this as you turn on the news and see what's happening three weeks after what happened on the london bridge? >> prayers and thoughts with the families and, you know, the cycle as we come to the end of ramadan, as fred was mentioning and others, we have to urge caution to know if this was a revenge attack or terrorist attack, and make no mistake, the ...

Attack, you can see from counter jihadists. >> unless it is actually, perpetrated by a radical islamic jihadist who are angry that this particular mosque had reformed. that it used to be radical. then shot down. this reorganized and became far lesless so, and more moderate ad mainstream, it may have been deliberate attack by radical islamic terrorists, these muslims were not ge jihadist enough. >> we don't have the facts yet, it really toward ha toward speculated, that possibly could be a possibility. >> let me ask you, if this is a revenge attack.