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Directly into his heart, but his record is dotted with racist remarks and sentiments going all the way back to when he was very young, joined his father's firm and complained about reverse discrimination, absurd concept, because he didn't want to comply with fair housing laws, and even the clip you just played about david duke, he spoke at length about david duke 17 years before when he thought of running in the reform party for president and backed out complaining because the reform party had guys in this like david duke, so this is a long established record -- the thing i always go back to w...

Know david duke. so how do you reconcile these two versions of donald trump? the 2000 version and the 2016 to 2017 version? >> he's completely self interested. this is a man whose priority is donald trump. now that he's the president of the united states, everyone hoped he would change, hoped that somehow he had rised to the occasion. the office might make him presidential. but it's the same fella who in 1972 screamed reverse discrimination when he was asked to obey the fair housing laws, the same guy who in the '90s took out the ad about the central park five. he's consistent with this self a...

Hoped he would change, hoped that somehow he would rise to the occasion. the office might make him presidential. but it's the same fella who in 1972 screamed reverse discrimination when he was asked to obey the fair housing laws, the same guy who in the '90s took out the ad about the central park five. consistent w self-aggrandizing appeal to racism when he wants to and then retreat from it when he thinks that will serve him. >> right. so he denounced racism with that, but then when it's politically expedient, you're saying, he can benefit from it personally, then he uses it then? >> he built ...

Here. i for the life of me don't understand the concept of reverse discrimination. it either is discrimination or it's not. when we talk about reverse discrimination, what we're saying is, there is regular discrimination, and when it comes to discriminating against white men, this is a special and kind of sinister form of discrimination. so as a purely legal term, that makes absolutely no sense. that's number one. number two, as it relates to the whole question of affirmative action, so here is the issue. based on what the proposal is for this new immigration status, that is, in fact, affirmat...

White wash all of these complaints over the years because of their ideological dedication to a certain view of civil rights where equality of outcomes is, in fact, what they view as equality rather than quality of opportunity. this is something that our organization has been waiting for for literally decades and we're grateful to see that someone in doj, in the administration is finally going to take some action. >> tucker: what do you call it when someone is penalized solely because of his race? you're the wrong color, you're the wrong ethnicity and we are going to hurt you because of that. w...