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Get away with this feeling they need to move if for mitt cal reasons if not for substance? >> the chain of events you just described is ri remarkable chain of events that even five years ago would never have been possible and it shows how dramatically the center of gravity around this issue has changed and a year ago we had a little bit of a preview of this when jan brewer in arizona vetoed a very similar bill. she saw what was coming and governor brewer never thought to be the smartest tack in the box saw this coming. so you could see it coming but it's been a remarkable couple of weeks aroun...

Saying the real issue is that religious people face their own kind of reverse discrimination here? >> i don't think it will be successful. what we as democrats believe is that religious freedom has been an important american value and will continue to be an important american value but we have always been able to realize religious liberty is important while at the same time putting the value of equality front and center. these two values coexisted in american law and governance for a long time. hillary clinton was right out of the box on this. the day the law was passed she came out against it...

>> the chain of events you just described is ri remarkable chain of events that even five years ago would never have been possible and it shows how dramatically the center of gravity around this issue has changed and a year ago we had a little bit of a preview of this when jan brewer in arizona vetoed a very similar bill. she saw what was coming and governor brewer never thought to be the smartest tack in the box saw this coming. so you could see it coming but it's been a remarkable couple of weeks around this. >> what do you think of what senator rubio tried to do in saying the real issue is ...

Pronouncement to fire miss sherrod way before -- not way before but hours before "factor" came on, "hannity" came on and greta came on. they didn't know what we were going to do about it. it's true they may have been anticipating. >> they probably could guess. >> yeah, you know what? all right. that's fair. >> they said oh, my god, fox has a hold of this story. they're going to beat us over the head. and if we don't get out there and fire her pre-emptive ly, we're going to look terrible and we're going to take it on the chin. >> the reason that he said that was not to diminish the white house ...

What do you care? you're passing them all in ratings. >> that's true. we will cover it and we will cover it fairly. >> just tell everybody in the united states that if you didn't watch fox news, o'reilly's show on monday night, you don't know what's going on. >> right. dick morris, everybody, check out his web site at dickmorris.com. in a moment, explosive press conference about the sherrod situation. major garrett and james rosen will weigh in. and later, dennis miller following the twists and turns in the story. can't wait to hear what the d can't wait to hear what the d man has to say upcom...