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Mccormick come forward calling for another blacklist in hollywood like we used to have in the past. when we had blacklists so that you didn't want to work with they didn't want you to work with actors even, this is what they are going back to. it is reverse mccarthyism at its best. heather: mccarthyism comes to mind. how did we get to this point? not only in california across the country where people are afraid to say who they support because of things like this? >> it is ironic because you have the left constantly calling trump a bully among other names and yet they are bullying people into s...

Good but the order, you know, it makes little sense. they would have booted me. i would have -- right. the band would have started to play if there was a band. i mean, people would have had heart attacks. then, i would have never been invited anywhere again. isn't that reverse mccarthyism? >> this is a town with almost a singular mindset. is it reverse mccarthyism? >> bill: yap, because you are banished. say you are an actor, not a brilliant journalist, all right? say, i depended on produce is hiring me. and i said something like that at the s.a.g. awards. i wouldn't work! >> i think there are...

I would have -- right. the band would have started to play if there was a band. i mean, people would have had heart attacks. then, i would have never been invited anywhere again. isn't that reverse mccarthyism? >> this is a town with almost a singular mindset. is it reverse mccarthyism? >> bill: yeah, because you are banished. say i was an actor, not a brilliant journalist, all right? say, i depended on producers hiring me. and i said something like that at the s.a.g. awards. i wouldn't work! >> i think there are actors of high caliber, and i would put you among them, not as an actor but as a ...

And have your release from all of this. >> bill: it is more than that, though. ashley judd giving that speech. i think she ruined her career. i do.gh as a leading woman. she can still act and get roles. but as somebody who can open a movie or they will feature, it is over. >> i think what we have learned from this past election, the right is as mobilized as the left is. all you have to do is do one search of "boycott liberal celebrities" -- >> bill: a lot of danger for the celebrities who depend on the public to buy their product. a lot of danger. now, reverse mccarthyism. if there had been --...

And have your release from all of this. >> bill: it is more than that, though. ashley judd giving that speech. i think she ruined her career. i do. as a leading woman. she can still act and get roles. but as somebody who can open a movie or they will feature, it is over. >> i think what we have learned from this past election, the right is as mobilized as the left is. all you have to do is do one search of "boycott liberal celebrities" -- >> bill: a lot of danger for the celebrities who depend on the public to by their product. a lot of danger. now, reverse mccarthyism. if there had been -- i ...