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Makes no real difference. the it is surface beneath the wheels that makes the difference, you know, in the cockpit we would be judging what type of situation that we have. we might have got breaking action reports. there were probably good breaking action reports why this happened. you know, at this point it is hard to say. it is possible it could have been a mechanical failure anderson with a reverse thrust not being deployed appropriately and giving an asymmetrical thrust which would have forced it off the runway possibly. it is hard to say at this point. >> we don't need to speculate in tha...

The reverse thrust we probably used in excess. you know, reverse thrust is used on most planes but it appears to -- that they went into a skid situation that took them off the runway just looking at the pictures. >> les this, may be a dumb question but having flown into laguardia throughout my life, there is water all around and in some -- it seems like at least to my memory in some of the landings you are flying over water in the last minute when the runway is right there, right? >> reporter: you are referring to landing in runway two to the southwest. you land on part of the bay. rikers isla...

A lot of good things in what she said. >> stephanie, get warm now. thank you so much for coming out on such a cold day. >> apologies. >> no, we wanted people to see how cold it was. >> stephanie mentioned, steve rattner, short runways. no >> they're short but very strict rules. >> less room for error. >> yes, less room for error. no question. look it's not like flying into aspen, colorado or the tricky airports in america. >> the two planes in front of them had no problem landing. when you land can't you, other than using brakes use reverse thrust? >> i landed on tuesday night when there was a...

Half they landed. >> they would have done. believe me, when they came over the threshold a and they suddenly realized that a lot of runway was moving under them a and the red lights at the end of the run way were coming faster toward them, they would have realized. they will have pushed very hard, you would have had maximum reverse thrust, you would have had the spoilers up, you would have had the brakings on full. that's why one of the people said they smelled rubber. they will have been doing everything possible to stop that. because frankly, maximum landing weight and the landing weight for...

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