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Things, to engage in colloquy back and forth that can only cause disrespect for our country. >> you remember richard nixon during the impeachment investigation was conducting the vietnam war every day of that investigation. >> yes. >> so we've seen a president being able to handle his job while being investigated. so when you say trial, do you mean of the president or michael cohen? >> that being the case, any -- >> so you think that the michael cohen case taken all the way, in your theory of how it might work, could lead to the impeachment of the president? >> i think various review processes...

>> so you think that the michael cohen case taken all the way, in your theory of how it might work, could lead to the impeachment of the president? >> i think various review processes within the department of justice might see that justice is done. he certainly can't get justice done from networks that are committed to attacking him. i saw some commentator from your network say -- >> wait can i get you to answer the question. you used the word impeachment, are you saying the end of the road of the michael cohen case could lead to impeachment of the president? >> it depends on what michael cohe...

Confidence in rob and i think because he had been provided interim clearance, there were mitigating circumstances. there are some who don't even get that interim clearance because there's something that comes up in their background and he doesn't get that final step. >> right, well, jared kushner does not have full security clearance and supposedly getting -- able to read the presidential daily briefing. again, the fbi is saying he's not -- they're not ready to sign off on a full security clearance for him. why is this fbi report basically only taken as a suggestion? >> so my understanding is ...

People who commit egregious offenses at the v.a. keep their job after exhaustive review processes and pensions or bonuses. and makes us all extremely upset that this is how our government operates. it all happens in the shadows. the swamp operates with special interest and bureaucratic language. this changes the bureaucratic language away from a preponderance of the evidence to substantial evidence and gives deference to the person firing, person being fired needs to prove why they should keep their job. the process is shortened in the review time and whistle blowers are substantially protecte...

Difficult to maintain tlfrs no legal basis for. >> no and i think that to suggest that the court was just saying there is no deference given here to the president is actually a little erroneous here. what she was sayingible is more akin to look i don't have the basis for me to make a straight face argument in this court this actually passed strs constitutional mufrt at this point. the court supported that. if national security was in fact the real motivation which he argues it is then why hasn't been there been the vetting part of the hearing was well you had a 90 day ban talk about the vettin...