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You as they happen. >> there is no question that the congress should call the former president in to testify under oath to explain what he was doing and why he was doing it. there is no question that they should build the case from the ground up. >> shannon: former house speaker newt gingrich urging congress to bring former president obama in for testimony and why he sat on intelligence pointing to vladimir putin and his direct involvement in russia's election hacking. rick lowry, editor of national review and evan bayh, former democratic senator. what do you make of the revelations in what th...

Probably between a rock and a hard place. if he took more robust action, which i happen to agree with congress schiff and senator feinstein was in order, he would be accused of meddling that way. if he had a less robust response, the course he chose, he will be accused of having a political motive that way. we should hear from his associates about what the factors were, why they decided to do what they did and let the american people judge. one last thing, there are some reports that even the modest steps he took, the trump administration might be considering rolling back. by that i'm referrin...

Than anything russia did or didn't do to hack the election. but it began with loretta lynch tainting that investigation. >> shannon: senator, as rich said there are democrats stepping up on this front including the ranking member of the house intelligence committee representative schiff. he says that he also wants to know more about her side about why to call it a matter. the same words that jim comey did made him feel queasy to hear about that. >> that's right. a public explanation of this is warranted. was it just a semantic matter, matter versus investigation, that's no big deal. if it was ...

Democracy that would warrant a very robust response. seemingly from what we know publicly the response was not that rebust. so having congress explore the former president's national security advisor, director of the cia, secretary of defense, what our appropriate response might have been i have no problem with that. there is one challenge. a lot of it will be highly classified information. what our cyber capabilities are. how they might counter attack us. a lot of that will have to be done in closed session and really can't be revealed publicly. >> shannon: rich, the former house speaking gin...

That appeared to be confirmed when at that live event scott walker's campaign manager also bailed. >> not unexpectedly, we have a little change in programming that i'm alerted by in this post-it note. rick lowry from the walker campaign will not be joining us and instead we are going to go straight to timmy teechlt eeple of the bobby jindal campaign. timmy. how are you doing? [ applause ] >> imagine being timmy in that situation. on the one hand you get to move up in the schedule because scott walker's campaign manager was supposed to go before you but scott walker's dropping out of the race s...