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Toughness with china. in fact, they believe that we need to. we were in finland, as i mentioned. nokia is completely gone, largely because of theft of intellectual property. they know full well that china is the real threat. >> so isn't the president's -- approach the right thing, given what you're just saying? >> no. just the opposite. in fact, we need to stick with our -- i'm sorry, our european allies, those in the eu, to challenge china. we can do that through the wto. when we take cases to the wto, we win about 90% of them. but if we split with our friends and our allies, then we'll not b...

Welcome back to "state of the union." the president famous for saying "you're fired" is building drama for a you're hired moment. but with just a single vote to spare in the u.s. senate, the real drama may be whether he has the votes. it's an especially tough spot for democratic senators in states trump won, now caught between their constituents and their democratic base. among them, democratic senator representing alabama, a state trump won by 28 points. joining me now is democratic senator, doug jones, of alabama. thank you so much for coming on, senator. let's start with the president's imp...

About what might be promised. there was a promise made with regard to exercises in -- with south korea that may not have been fully vetted or noticed with south korea. i know that countries in europe are concerned about promises that might be made by the administration without consultation with our nato allies. >> for example? what's the biggest concern? >> well, that -- suspension of exercises, for example. or a commitment to remove troops from certain countries. those kind of things would concern and do concern our nato allies significantly. >> if you were advising the president -- if he cam...

Be accepted. and the sanctions will continue until the behavior stops. and that we know that russia, despite putin's saying otherwise, russia interfered with our elections. so those things, to start with, to say, hey, let's stipulate these items, and then go forward. i think that's what the president ought to do. >> and the other thing that you were talking to allies about was -- was and is the trade war, which is in full effect, as of 12:01:00 a.m. friday morning, the chinese responded with tariffs of their own. the opening selvo in a full-fledged trade war, for sure. let me ask you this. wha...

To. i'm glad that the president is raising this issue with the nato countries. many of them are not pulling their full weight. but the president makes it sound as if they're supposed to contribute 2% to us somehow for their defense. what the commitment is, is to spend 2% of their gdp on defense, which will make them a more valuable part of nato. and about 8 of the 29 are doing it. some of the countries are coming closer. many are making great strides. but they are concerned about the rhetoric. >> do they have a right to be concerned? >> yes, they do. >> so when you're in a meeting with them, a...