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Care companies going up against him and that has not borne out. >> no. i thought what was interesting about the speech today, on the one hand he could say, you know, these are -- the pharmaceutical companies are the biggest lobbyists in washington. at the same time as michael cohen, as you said, was taking $1.2 million from novartis and that didn't seem like a contradiction to people. >> and there's a way in which, to jennifer's point, the 40% of the country that's with him, the people in that room are sort of -- are hermetically sealed off it seems. >> it's not just fox. the entire leadership...

Off it seems. >> it's not just fox. the entire leadership of the republican party has been nurturing this base for years. i think it's been clear for at least some folks from the outside what's been going on. they thought they could contain it and just sort of ride it to electoral victory year in, year out. so that hermetically sealed quality is not just a function of media. paul ryan could pierce that hermetically sealed bubble. mitch mcconnell could pierce that. in fact, show me an elected republican official who is not retiring who has even attempted to pierce that bubble, and you win a coo...

Outside what's been going on. they thought they could contain it and just sort of ride it to electoral victory year in, year out. so that hermetically sealed quality is not just a function of media. paul ryan could pierce that hermetically sealed bubble. mitch mcconnell could pierce that. in fact, show me an elected republican official who is not retiring who has even attempted to pierce that bubble, and you win a cookie. >> everyone says oh, yeah, he's retiring, he's retiring, she's retiring. and jennifer, it interacts with what we just were doing in thing 1, thing 2. it is a remarkable fact ...

It -- is a race being nationalized got their base kpriet excited, too. >> isn't it true in the case of georgia 6 that even though trumpcare ride it by a small margin, that was tom price's district and he carried it by much much larger margin. >> he had no opponent. the atlanta journal constitution did a story if the person actually existed. you see double digit movement from the trump margin in '16. that's the one district, the one special election where they improved on the trump margin in that district. >> and democrats haven't been competing here. they didn't run anyone. they haven't run a ...

Screen, technological change, he said he would be on their side. kind of like a surfer riding a wave, trump didn't create this energy, but he did ride it. tony schwartz, of course "trump in action" co-author of "the art of the deal" and he's doing research on a new book "the way we're working isn't working" and schwartz says trump has tapped in on different kind of fear out there. when we think about donald trump as a marketer, as a performer, was able to take those energies, however disparate they were, look at him in atlanta, the lights go out and watch what trump does. >> they were probably...