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Everything's uniform. it don't matter about what type of car you drive, what type of house you live in, how much money you got. that's kind of irrelevant in prison because it's a pecking order society. it's the strong, you know, and that's how you survive. >> before i met him, all i had was this image of this gruff, ripped guy who could take on the whole team of officers, and upon meeting him, i just was shocked to find out that he's actually kind of a calm and collected guy who is not this monster that you see on these cell extraction videos. >> i didn't even know how to turn the computer on ...

Money you got. that's kind of irrelevant in prison because it's a pecking order society. it's the strong, you know, and that's how you survive. >> before i met him, all i had was this image of this gruff, ripped guy who could take on the whole team of officers, and upon meeting him i was shocked to find out that he's actually kind of a calm and collected guy who is not this monster that you see on these cell extraction videos. >> i didn't even know how to turn the computer on until recently. >> what was most interesting was he was just learning how to use a computer and he was told by everybod...

So we decided we would go out and visit with roy and talk to him about his brother and about how it is being out of prison. >> roy, who had served his time at a different prison than ray, had been out for four months at the time of our visit. but after nearly 20 years of incarceration, much of it in solitary confinement, he was still struggling with the transition to the free world. >> you go from a pecking order type mentality into an economic society, and it's tough, it really is, because everybody is wearing the same clothes, everything is uniform. it don't matter about what type of car you...

With his parents, and roy and ray are very close. so we decided we would go out and visit with roy and talk to him about his brother and about how it is being out of prison. >> roy, who had served his time at a different prison than ray, had been out for four months at the time of our visit. but after nearly 20 years of incarceration, much of it in solitary confinement, he was still struggling with the transition to the free world. >> you go from a pecking order type mentality into an economic society, and it's tough, it really is, because everybody is wearing the same clothes, everything is u...

>> you go from a pecking order type mentality into an economic society, and it's tough, it really is, because everybody is wearing the same clothes, everything is uniform. it don't matter about what type of car you drive, what type of house you live in, how much money you got. that's kind of irrelevant in prison because it's a pecking order society. it's the strong, you know, and that's how you survive. >> before i met him, all i had was this image of this gruff, ripped guy who could take on the whole team of officers, and upon meeting him i was shocked to find out that he's actually kind of a...