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Misuse. our history is replete with locking up citizens in detention camps at points, or the excess s of hoover mccarthy. >> ever movie we've seen on television assumes as a basic prep miswe're doing these things already. i don't know, let's say you were an elected official or candidate with a secret life with an online weenie wagger or -- >> that's out rage gas. >> they have that anyway. they have that anyway. >> who knows more about you, the nsa or amazon? >> tony if they want -- exactly. but if they want tony bourdane or any member of the political opposition, a regular run of the mill fbi ...

Of hoover mccarthy. >> ever movie we've seen on television assumes as a basic prep miswe're doing these things already. i don't know, let's say you were an elected official or candidate with a secret life with an online weenie wagger or -- >> that's out rage gas. >> they have that anyway. they have that anyway. >> who knows more about you, the nsa or amazon? >> tony if they want -- exactly. but if they want tony bourdane or any member of the political opposition, a regular run of the mill fbi agents gets your phone meta data. they don't need the big pile in utah and wouldn't risk it for that. ...

Mill fbi agents gets your phone meta data. they don't need the big pile in utah and wouldn't risk it for that. there is no reason to risk it for that. they can have it any time they want. it's legal under the constitution and has been for 30 years. >> edward snowden, good guy or bad guy or edging towards good guy or edging towards bad guy in your estimation. >> i wish -- i would go with someone not that long ago and i was making a big, long, civil liberties, anti national security speech and he just looked at me and said who is he to decide? how is he the one that's going to decide what should...

Course, opened the door to the whole litany of questions that you raised so eloquently in your opening statement here. >> you know, congressman, the whistle blowers, they had a lot to lose. why risk it? why do you think these guys took on washington? >> i think that they felt that they were out there on the point and left alone to begin with. you articulated a point that was of great concern to me that they put them in benghazi with a requirement that they inhabit a place that was not up to the standards that are required under the law. we've established that when we had our last, you know, in...

Course, opened the door to the whole litany of questions that you raised so eloquently in your opening statement here. >> you know, congressman, the whistle blowers, they had a lot to lose. why risk it? why do you think these guys took on washington? >> i think that they felt that they were out there on the point and left alone to begin with. you articulated a point that was of great concern to me that they put them in benghazi with a requirement that they inhabit a place that was not up to the standards that are required under the law. we've established that when we had our last, you know, in...