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Here, the long-term state innovations $62 billion, that is one of the risk pools, as you spend that money, it is not going to be enough, like you said, one day to deal with that is to reassure some of the risk. have the republicans talked about that possibility? >> we talked about a lot, we think it is a system that works very well. basically, we are focused on a couple of things. one is lowering the insurance premium, because they have doubled over the last four years under obamacare. the other things that we need to stabilize the insurance market because as you know there are so many places ...

>> here's the problem. some people on the left are going to say anything about the republicans propose is mean-spirited and blah, blah, blah, when in fact, one of the key architects of obamacare, he was on another network this morning and said actually, this is no longer an obamacare repeal bill, because it keeps so much of it in place and just sort of waters down. so i think my objections to the republican bill, a big one being how do you fix the risk pools and the adverse selection problems? the other one being i don't really believe that it is that different than obamacare, as it currently ...

Build of the senate has put forward so far, there is a big contradiction here in my mind, and this is what it is, it says that under the current bill, just like obamacare, insurers have to sell everyone, including with pre-existing conditions for the same rights as everyone else, while also repealing obamacare is individual mandate tax, there is no enforcing mechanism anywhere there. so i just don't understand how it is currently constituted the republican plan would reverse the fundamental flaw of obamacare, which is risk pools that are unsustainable. that to me is ultimately, should be impor...

>> gregg: i want to see if you take issue of the cbo report that says people with pre-existing conditions would lose coverage under the house bill which has passed. now senators are looking at it. i looked at that bill, does not say that at all. people with pre-existing conditions would be covered, but only those who allow their coverage to lapse would have to pay a higher premium, but only for a short period of time. >> that is the case. they're also talking about creating risk pools for those who have a difficult time obtaining insurance because of illness or pre-existing conditions. the rep...

And it's not like this is some sort of hypothetical political problem. obamacare continues to disintegrate. we saw in the last few weeks blue cross/blue shield. one of the few remaining carriers participating in the law pulling out of major markets like the kansas city area and the entire state of nebraska. so people, real consumers across the country are being harmed by raising prices that keep going up not just out-of-pocket costs but premiums as well and fewer and fewer choices as the risk pools continue to get more toxic and unsustainable. this is a problem for people that needs to be fixe...