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But then people look at the recent poll, which is saying that 62 i guess percent of russians are supporting the war and 29% do not support the war. it means that even if state polls, it is said that every third russian does not support the war. now, understanding that sociology in russia does not exist and sociology in russia is just fake, we understand that when the state poll says that 29% does not support the war, it means that it's not 29%, it's 60%. >> much, much more. >> or 65%. of course a lot of people in russia unfortunately are brainwashed by the propaganda. i think even us, i mean, ...

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Pressure from the authorities there to not lab em it a war, right. there are certain things you can say, certain material you can use, obviously all of it trying to choke off any coverage that you were bringing to viewers. give us a sense of what it's like now for russians who don't have access to that type of information anymore. >> well, first of all, thank you so much, bianna. for us it's very important to be here with you. and, you know -- >> oh, no. >> -- are being blocked and there are still telegrams, there are still some chats that people can use, but obviously, we are witnessing right...

About loved ones in russia not believing what they're hearing from family and loved ones in ukraine about families splitting a part over this war, tell our viewers why there is this disconnect, and a lot of it coming from the lack of real information about what's happening. >> well, first of all, russia is an authoritarian state. and authoritarian states, sociology does not exist. that's just how it is. soelsology does not exist. so are the polls are not trusted. even the poll s of independent organizations. people are frightened and then when they are encountered by someone in the street who ...

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