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Racial anxiety, not economic anxiety. democrats cannot just dismiss those voters if they want to win statewide elections or the next presidential election. here to talk about what democrats can do to win over the voters, alex mcgillis and astead herndon. alex, you've been writing about this for a while. ohio the margins annihilated rob cordray. he lost 15 counties, 70-30. what's your take on what's going on? >> well, my main take is that while racial anxiety is obviously playing a big role here and that trump has activated something quite ugly in a lot of these place, the other thing that demo...

Becomes almost kind of a sensation in their own right as a candidate to kind of break through that. you have become almost in your own small way kind of a media star. >> that's interesting. i'm thinking about beto o'rourke in texas who in some places brought down those rural margins. shuttle on the who ran against steve king where their whole thing was showing up. that almost became a message in and of itself. you may not like me or my politician, but i'm going to come to you and listen to you. >> we go back to ohio, i saw cordray tweet today now this i'm no longer running i'm free to talk abo...

There is a growing republican margin among white rural voters, not uniformly, but in many places due it seems in large part to the activation of racial anxiety, not economic anxiety. democrats cannot just dismiss those voters if they want to win statewide elections or the next presidential election. here to talk about what democrats can do to win over the voters, alex mcgillis and astead herndon. alex, you've been writing about this for a while. ohio the margins annihilated rob cordray. he lost 15 counties, 70-30. what's your take on what's going on? >> well, my main take is that while racial ...

Ethnic background, it's going to help to sort of deal with what i think is a media problem where door to door campaigning has become less valuable in a lot of these communities because everything is fox, everything is facebook, everything is talk radio. so you need to have someone who becomes almost kind of a sensation in their own right as a candidate to kind of break through that. you have become almost in your own small way kind of a media star. >> that's interesting. i'm thinking about beto o'rourke in texas who in some places brought down those rural margins. shuttle on the who ran agains...

Years ago. on the other side, what you might are done with investigation or oversight, another function of the -- >> but it becomes -- i mean, this is -- i think the term new nullification to describe -- what you're getting at, if republicans have philosophical objection, they're going to fill bulser the nominee for that as a way of not letting the agency function because they don't have the votes to pass legislation that would do away with it, they filibuster the nominee. >> and i think we saw that this week. we had my friend from south carolina, senator graham, he came right out and said, lo...