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Was early on when he was 14, 15 years old, coming over for christmas morning and opening up presents with us. it was definitely not your normal dynamics of a family you would see. they were doing pretty well with that. >> as the years went on, he was family. because he was part of the inner circle. we shared meals together. he taught me how to drive a stick shift, you know. he was my male role model. >> rob went through phases in his life. rob would recreate himself during his early years, all the way through when he met cathy. >> catherine had a very specific idea of what robert should be or ...

>> cathy and rob met at the chicago health club. rob was the manager, cathy was a trainer. they started dating. they had a very normal relationshi relationship. >> he was charismatic, fun, everybody looked up to him. >> we just all wanted to be around him, you know. we never felt like we had enough time. i always thought that later on, when things were settled down, when we had families or life wasn't traveling so fast, i really would relish when i can settle down and spend more time with rob when it wasn't such a rush rush world. unfortunately, that didn't happen. slip-on's the way to go. mor...

Passion of some sort, there is at least in this country, some sort of -- some sort of belief that makes the crime less heinous than if you had time to contemplate what you were doing and did it anyway. in our case, unfortunately, andrew flew home and sat in a cold dark garage for over four hours, waiting for robert, so andrew could then kill him. >> my father got a phone call from the grand avenue detectives that they're starting to think cathy had some sort of involvement in my brother's murder. i had never been so surprised. i had no idea. i had no idea that this -- cathy is involved in rob'...

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